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Drop Tine I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Why don't some of you bums learn how to resize your images? It makes it difficult for other members and guests to read the posts on this forum. And It makes this forum look like a sloppy mess.
Most forums delete members posts that don’t resize the images or the mod’s just delete the images and ask the users to repost them the correct size. I see the mods or administrators never seem to give a crap so I will finally say something. All I’m asking for is a little courteousy for the rest of us that try to do it correctly. Thanks DT. |
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Randy hunts beside Hawbakers 600 acre preserve...of course his hunting is good. But if you speak to randy in person..he will tell you a different story. He owns a sporting goods business..Its all about the $. Talk to him in person..he will tell you a different story.
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hey renea.. aint da innernet great..read em and weep ![[talker]](images/smiles/laugh4.gif "talker")
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That's funny, my buddy says Randy tells it like it is. He prefers to keep it real! And what does where he hunts have anything to do with anything? He didn't even mention his hunting. Nice try at a spin though.
What's even funnier is your link to 6 persons OPINIONS from 3 years ago. You still don't get it do you? You thrive in a fantasy world. |
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Old Timer I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Old Timer, thanks for providing that nugget of information. But I don't see where RSB specifically declared every buck off public land. Maybe that buck was harvested off one of the few farms in the county, of which, I can't think of one that isn't bordered by State Land in Cameron county.
Our club sets on 3000 acres in Cameron Co. and NO it don't have any State land bordering it, there is lots of land in North west Cameron that don't border State land. |
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Oh, Old Timer I guess you could be a member of the Bobby's Run club then. That is the only club and the biggest club that does not border much state land but there is a huge astirisk.
A fact finder like you would be interested to know that the entire NW portion of the county is the densest portion of public use hunting land. See, it is encompassed as a whole by peices of Elk SF it and along with pretty much the entire NW corner of the county is bordered or within the 22,000 acres of private Seneca land which is enrolled in the PGCs game coop as an SGL open to public hunting. (They would like to see less deer there too). There's a lot I could say about that club's reputation. Anyway, NW Cameron County is a prime example of public land hunting in PA. |
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Old Timer I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Woodhawg you guess very well, and it don't border any state land, it does border Senaca and part of their land is also leased that borders the club. By the way don't believe all of what you hear about the club, I would say it's the best run club in the county, we hate road hunters and anyone else that breaks the law. I hope you will come to one of our meeting some day, I will let you know when it is. ![[thumbup]](images/smiles/thumb.gif "thumbup") |
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Thanks for the invite, Oldtimer. I know some of your members. But I didn't know there were formal open meetings. I am glad that you hate road hunters and guys that break the law, me too.
Being bordered by Seneca is being bordered by public hunting ground. It is signed up with the PGC as a game land for public hunting, ie for hunting it IS state ground. Also, Bingham Hollow was part of Elk SF until they traded that with Seneca for another peice around 2002. Doesn't the back of the BR Club go go over the back of Windfall Run to the Shawmutt Grade, too? Just as a neat aside that area is a huge, chunk of forest. I hunt and fish some there. Of the around 22,000 acres, that is just in Cameron County. Seneca's land extends over the Elk Co. boundary to the West and the Mckean line North. They go clear to Elk State Forest border near East Branch Dam and Elk State Forest on the East at Dividing Ridge. To the North they are bordered by SGL 30 and to the Elk SF which is just on the other side of SGL 14. Roughly 30 square miles of forest with some private ground along the bottom creeks (Driftwood and Clear Creek) and a couple leases. |
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OK, last year I posted the original pic for this feed. That was a monster buck. The guy that harvested that crazy deer has done it again. Another atrophic trophy thanks to deer management in PA and in wonderful Apollo Park area of York County. This deer weighed in at 175, 20 inch neck. he did not age it though.
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RSB I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Probably just too many roads, or something, in the area that is causing injuries to some of the deer.
It appears, though the picture is poor, that the deer is nothing but a typical two-year-old buck that was trying to heal an injury to the left side of his body. When a deer has a broken bone it is healing it will produce a deformed antler on the opposite side of its body. Dick Bodenhorn |
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Not sure how that deer is attributed to current deer management??? Are you saying that injuries / deformities didn't happen before... or they just didn't happen to this guy Fitkee?
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Yet another beastie buck from York county. This one shot by a buddy from work this weekend. Deer was very old going downhill.
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RSB I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Bologna. I don’t think that deer is old at all. In fact, it is pretty obviously a 1 ½ year old buck that simply had an injury and healing a bone on the right side of his body or an injury to his left antler pedicel.
From what I can see of the antler and skull I would rather suspect the buck had a broken skull that shifted part of the antler pedicel down the side of his head. That is why his main antler on the left side comes out from the side of his head. Then he also grew antler spikes where the break in the skull had been because parts of the pedicel where still present there as well. It isn’t all that uncommon for such types of injuries to occur in deer or in elk. We see those types of injuries and antler deformities pretty often. That type of deformity is not from poor genetics or old age. It is simply from an injury. Dick Bodenhorn |
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Oh so the PGC DOES age deer by antler size. I didn't know that. They always told us you can't age deer by antlers in EVERYTHING I've ever seen come out in print. It's amazing that you have this ability to do this now by seeing the skull and some beat up antlers in a picture. :/7x
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RSB I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Nope we still use the wear and replacement of the teeth for determining the age. But after you have aged thousands of them it isn’t too hard to tell a 1 ½ year old buck from an older buck just from the base of the antlers. In fact many studies have been done that show that younger deer can indeed be aged from the diameter of the bases. Then when you factor in the spread and point length it is VERY easy for anyone with more then limited experience to see that the buck in your picture is simply a 1 ½ year old buck with an injury.
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Theotis44 I'm a VIP Member of PAbucks.com!!
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Typically, a whitetail deer between the bases of it's antlers is roughly 4 inches, or the width of your 3 fingers, give or take. Typically. this one is wider than four fingers. It had an enormous head. the romanesque nose of a mature deer. It was also missing 4 teeth on the bottom jaw, and the ones that were left were ground down severely. these would be the front teeth.
This deer also had an arrow wound on the right side of it's body in the ribs, that left an indentation in it's muscles around the ribs, most likely from an arrow from at least the previous year. it also was suffering from OO buck shot on it's left side that was there for a very long time. It was just under the skin. It also had been arrowed and was barely able to walk this season. Had a case of gangrene in it's neck from this wound. Now I wouldn't say any of those wounds could tell an age, but he must have been eating rocks to bust his teeth up and ground em down. |
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