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Uncle Dave

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:07 am |
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GHOST:
There's not a damned thing to be ashamed of with respect to hunting deer in PA, and I'm frankly getting sick of your continual bashing of the hunting legacy that we have here in PA. Is it perfect? Certainly not. I'm a fair believer that the pure joy in the hunt is the pursuit of the quarry, not the harvest. What you are interested in is not hunting, but killing. I don't measure my success in the number of days that it took me to harvest a "HUGE" buck. I could give a rats butt if it took you 1.2 days to catch a cold. The point in this thread was to illustrate just how far out of touch you are will respect to reality. You continually bombard us with grandiose tales of your success in areas where both the respective local state agencies and the resident local hunters alike, state that such success is unrealistic. But here you are with a handful of pictures that could have been taken anywhere, at any time. I'm afraid that if I was to give you a vote of confidence, that is actually believe that you harvested those bucks in the areas that you claim, then I'd have to raise an eyebrow and contemplate as to which "artificial" methods you employed to take those deer. Am I accusing you of employing illegal hunting methods? Certainly not! I do however, believe that I am probably not alone on this site when it comes to putting much faith into your claims of being "Daniel Boone". I remain skeptical, as obviously many other here are, that you can have the degree of success that you claim. I will go on record as stating that having that type of regular success on "public land" as being a pretty far fetched.
Gamelands 109 in Erie County is bordered by swamps and corn fields. The largest deer ever measured in PA was hit by a vehicle on PA Rt 97 just outside the gamelands. This land harbors a rather bountiful deer population. Last year's buck harvest was hampered by dense fog on the opening day, and several trophy buck roam these lands. I challenge Ghost to come up and show me how it's done. Put your money where your mouth is buddy. I'll accompany you into these woods, not to hunt, but to film you hunting. If you are the hunter that you claim to be, then you will harvest one of these brutes, and the video evidence that I collect can confirm your place as a true woodsman. If you harvest one of these NW PA monsters then I will praise you as a hunting legend for as long as I may live. Got courage?
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Theotis44

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:42 pm |
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Guys, you all are making a grievous error in judgement here. Do not allow ghost trespass onto your sacred hunting grounds. You are putting your chance at trophy deer at risk, to shut him up!
I do not agree with everything he says, but, as I said before, he is a Daniel Boone, he didn't say it.
Also, I think he likes to raise some hackles every now and then. Yup, he thinks he's right most of the time, but if we didn't think we were right, there would not really be a need for these forums.
I hunted with the Ghost through high school, and part way through college. He absolutely, positively lives and breathes this stuff. I have no doubt that the animals shown to you here were taken lawfully by he and his party. He is one of the most dedicated hunters I will ever know. The reason he is in the business he is in is to spend the most time in the woods that he can. Inviting him to your hunting areas, is like having a busload of people with overeating disorders at a buffet.
But I think it would be great spectacle, Dave's proposition. But to film him from sun up to sun down standing in that treestand, not coming down for anything until success, would be pretty boring for you Dave.
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RSB

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:20 pm |
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| Theotis44 wrote: |
Guys, you all are making a grievous error in judgement here. Do not allow ghost trespass onto your sacred hunting grounds. You are putting your chance at trophy deer at risk, to shut him up!
I do not agree with everything he says, but, as I said before, he is a Daniel Boone, he didn't say it.
Also, I think he likes to raise some hackles every now and then. Yup, he thinks he's right most of the time, but if we didn't think we were right, there would not really be a need for these forums.
I hunted with the Ghost through high school, and part way through college. He absolutely, positively lives and breathes this stuff. I have no doubt that the animals shown to you here were taken lawfully by he and his party. He is one of the most dedicated hunters I will ever know. The reason he is in the business he is in is to spend the most time in the woods that he can. Inviting him to your hunting areas, is like having a busload of people with overeating disorders at a buffet.
But I think it would be great spectacle, Dave's proposition. But to film him from sun up to sun down standing in that treestand, not coming down for anything until success, would be pretty boring for you Dave. |
Horse pucky.
He has already told us repeatedly that he can’t compete with the other hunters that hunt this state, many of which do harvest high quality buck on the public land year after year. I check dozens of bucks just as good and even better then the ones in ghost’s pictures every year coming off of the public land right here in the long time habitat damaged areas of the north central part of the state.
If he is a legal hunter he is only allowed, by law, to harvest one buck in this entire state. He most certainly can’t hurt anyone’s hunting opportunities if he hunts the same areas of public land they do and stay s within the laws doing it. The public land in Pennsylvania has enough room for any hunters willing to go into the hard to hunt places harboring the big bucks.
I don’t think the quality of Dave’s hunting, or anyone else’s, would be jeopardized in the least by having Ghost hunting it, unless of course he does use illegal methods and refuses to stop with one.
Dick Bodenhorn
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Uncle Dave

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:09 pm |
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| Theotis44 wrote: |
| But I think it would be great spectacle, Dave's proposition. But to film him from sun up to sun down standing in that treestand, not coming down for anything until success, would be pretty boring for you Dave. |
I would find nothing out of sorts with the prospect of dawn to dusk hunting. I am a dawn to dusk hunter. I'll even climb into a stand at 4AM if he thought that it would improve his chances.
All I have to say to our good ol' buddy Ghost is this...
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
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woodhawg

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:43 pm |
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"Guys, you all are making a grievous error in judgement here. Do not allow ghost trespass onto your sacred hunting grounds. You are putting your chance at trophy deer at risk, to shut him up!
I do not agree with everything he says, but, as I said before, he is a Daniel Boone, he didn't say it.
Also, I think he likes to raise some hackles every now and then. Yup, he thinks he's right most of the time, but if we didn't think we were right, there would not really be a need for these forums.
I hunted with the Ghost through high school, and part way through college. He absolutely, positively lives and breathes this stuff. I have no doubt that the animals shown to you here were taken lawfully by he and his party. He is one of the most dedicated hunters I will ever know. The reason he is in the business he is in is to spend the most time in the woods that he can. Inviting him to your hunting areas, is like having a busload of people with overeating disorders at a buffet"
Well one positive thing I can say about our own "Daniel Boone" that is similar is that he can cultivate groupie (or maybe 2) too!
I'm thinking about volunteering to film him take a trophy in Ohio...
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RSB

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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:53 pm |
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Tink ...
Thanks for the kind words
Like I said in the past....What is a good hunter? Ive always said that..what makes a good hunter from a poor one is the location he/her hunts ..thats all...When I see a hunter harvesting large bucks..I say to myself..wow..he;s got a good spot..thats all...Great spots make "great" hunters.....Now..One can either pay for these spots and buy their success or one can work hard and kill big bucks on publicland....The differnce...The latter hunter works harder therefor appreciates his/her accomplishements more then the fellow that bought his/her success...I'll never pay to hunt...Never!!
I'm no better then anyone else..Put a 12 year old in my spot in Ohio and he too will propbably kill a mature buck..So..its the spot..not the hunter..The only thing I do differently then 90% of the hunters is put time into finding that "good" spot. Every peice of publicland has that 'Good" spot..The trick is to find that spot...Where were most of you guys last february and march? While you guys were doing other stuff..I was scouting in Ohio trying to find other good spots..and i found 2 more beautiful spots that might yield more big bucks..who knows..but they sure look good.
Good spots make good hunters..thats all. ![thumbup [thumbup]](images/smiles/thumb.gif) |
Ok, now that I can pretty much agree with. I agree that the most important things a person can do is learn the habitats, bedding areas, feeding areas, travel routes, wind patterns and escape routes used by the deer in an area. The best time to learn that is in the winter, while there is snow on the ground.
Once you have figured those things out it is mostly just a matter of spending enough time there in the season to harvest the buck you are after. The problem for some hunters is simply having the available time needed to be there at the right time.
Those same methods tend to make successful hunters, no matter what state they are hunting in.
Dick Bodenhorn
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renegade

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:50 am |
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| Ghost wrote: |
| ..I'll never pay to hunt...Never!! |
uumm... whether you realize it or not, your constantly paying to hunt and elaborating about it here. Whether it's a $300 lease or a $300 license, it's a fee to allow you to hunt that land.
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| "The problem for some hunters is simply having the available time needed to be there at the right time. |
That is so true for probably 70% of the hunters. This is what makes the longer doe season so nice.
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renegade

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:41 am |
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Yeah, that's it.
Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day!
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:41 am |
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