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[quote="renegade"]"[i] I knew it wasn't going to be an overnight fix. But now I see light at the end of the tunnel.[/quote]

The question is, How long is the tunnel?

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[quote="renegade"]"The question is, How long is the tunnel?

Will (Oldzimm) Zimmerman"


Only mother nature knows for sure. But it's been 10 years, 5 of reduction and 5 of stabilization and now with the lowering of allocations and a shortened doe season I believe we'll start to see an increase. I also think it's time to eliminate the jr / sr october doe season. With 5 years of very low deer numbers the habitat has benefited and should continue as long as the herd isn't increased too fast. The BESF isn't erecting as many fences as they needed before.
Disclaimer: The above comment was directed to the 4D wmu.


With all that has happened i pa hunting in the past ten years of extreme deer reduction I hope we do not lose the youth hunt . This is a good time of year to get the young hunters out with a gun .
If we want future hunters we have to give them a few more options .
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Well that is a concern and has been for quite a few years, irrelevant of the deer program. The average age of hunters is around the 50 year old mark and we are due for a mass reduction of hunters due to old age, health, death, or injury. This is why they've started several programs to garner youth interest such as the youth seasons for junior hunters and the mentored youth hunts. It's also the reason for the old antler restrictions to remain for junior hunters.
The number of junior hunters is at 86,628. The mentored youth program added an additional 28,542 kids able to try out hunting. We have several statewide clubs who worked hard to get that program in place.
The entire nation is losing young hunters due to the many more opportunities for recreation they have nowadays, compared to 20 years ago. This is why it's even more important to not promote a poor attitude about hunting to the kids, with comments comparing the "good old days" to the current ones. This is another illustration of how clubs like the usp are dividing hunters and driving some away with their perpetual negativity.
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You are asking why are hunters leaving and I just had a guy from Georgia ask - is there any other hunters from North Georgia that hunts in Pennsylvania - because he plans to come here to hunt next year.

If you want to attract hunters from other states - you have to employ gun writers from Pennsylvania who can praise honestly the attributes to hunting in Pennsylvania.

That doesn't mean that you have to lie to them or show them pictures of trophy bucks - because lord knows only one in one thousand is a real trophy - but to show them that they can come here and have a good time and hunt most anywhere - because there is a Game Lands in most every county that has deer and woods of any size.

In my situation - I was a total failure in high school when it came to grammar and English, but I was a Rhodes Scholar when it came time to go hunting.
Before the days of the internet and the computer - you had to type every word - one at a time and there was no spell check and no grammar check that could correct your / my mistakes.

Today's media employs people who are good looking that fits the mold of today's modern hunters.
Some dude with matching camo and a flashy pick up truck and a magnum rifle and a $1000 Leupold scope and you got to have those Tally Rings...
Spending most of his time hawking boots and gloves and scents and all kinds of gimmicks that cannot be used effectively in Pennsylvania's rifle season.
Bow hunters on the other hand - has too many opportunities to harvest deer and so for the most part - there is not enough trophy deer on public land - where a out of state hunter can just jump out of their vehicle and say here I am deer and have one walk right up to the vehicle - where the bow hunter can just shoot it and be on their way in 15 minutes or less.

The bottom line is - that with all the restrictions in place - they do not want to go to Pennsylvania, where they cannot use their AR 15 rifle and where they have to sit in the freezing cold to hunt - when they can hunt further to the south and shoot multiple deer per a day, use the firearm of their choice and have unlimited opportunities including Sunday Hunting.


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